What is your age and how is your blood pressure today ?
I am currently 60 years old with both cystic kidneys and cystic liver. I have excellent normal kidney functioning and normal liver functioning. Since 2007 I have been taking one drop of solé in a full glass of mineral - spring water daily. Four months later I had a very slight improvement in my kidney functioning and improvement in my liver functioning. My creatinine had always been 1.1 for the past ten years. Now suddenly it was 0.8. These both are normal and some would argue that this is the same reading. However it was repeated the following day with a similar result. My iothalmate clearance was 69. This is a measure of kidney strength. This also was the highest it has been in ten years. I was spilling a little protein in my twenty four urine, only mild about 20. My blood pressure was normal in the doctor's office. This was truly a first. Each time I would show the doctor my blood pressure readings at home and each time I went to his office these would register high. We thought that I might have white coat syndrome; that I became nervous at the thought of seeing my doctor. And I also had my eyes examined by my surgeon who performed Lasik corrective eye surgery on me. He noticed that I no longer had an early haze or what he called pre-cataracts. My vision had improved as it was immediately following my Lasik surgery. He said something was hydrating my eyes. It is a mystery as to why I have these slight improvements.
How to keep blood pressure low? Work with your nephrologist and continual self monitor your own blood pressure so you can know when it is too high. I read a study where individuals were given Potassium Citrate to effectively lower blood pressure. It is thanks to many of you that I do not need blood pressure medication. As long as I remain relatively alkaline (urinary pH between 7.1 and 8.0) I have blood pressure 100/60 110/70 120/80; I do not spill protein in my urine; and I generally feel better. In addition to blood pressure medications, the following are a list of things helpful to maintain normal blood pressure.
HERBS LOWER BLOOD PRESSURE
parsley
saffron
FOODS LOWER BLOOD PRESSURE
onions
garlic
spelt
lemons
SUPPLEMENTS LOWER BLOOD PRESSURE
potassium citrate
magnesium
calcium citrate
LOWERS BLOOD PRESSURE
A few lifestyle changes that lower blood pressure
Twice a day walks
Adequate rest and sleep and as Michael reminds us - Intimacy with a loved one.
FOODS RAISE BLOOD PRESSURE
It helps to eliminate common allergy foods:
egg wheat soy peanuts milk crustaceans sesame seeds macadamian nuts beef
animal products: meat, fish, game, lamb, beef, pork, venison, poultry (dipped in bleach) Brazil nut
caffeine
candy canned goods
celestial seasonings herbal teas containing hawthorne, licorice, ginseng, rosemary cheese
chips chocolate coffee cola
coffee de caf
coffee espresso crustaceans
dairy de-caf beverages egg expresso frozen foods
green tea
hazelnut kola nut licorice macadamian nuts
maple syrup milk olives pastries peanuts pizza prepared foods
salt salty snacks soy sugar sweets tea wheat white rice (sodium gluconate)
yeast
COMPOUNDS RAISE BLOOD PRESSURE
alcohol
bleach
cleaning compounds
lack of exercise ephedra pseudofed weight gain
position blood pressure taken –lying down (lowest) sitting (highest) standing (in between)
time of day blood pressure taken
windex
HERBS RAISE BLOOD PRESSURE
Ginger
Hawthorne
Licorice
Ginseng
Rosemary Kola nut
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Is there a biofeedback device for home use that might lower blood pressure ?
According to the website: RESPeRATE is a portable, computerized electronic device that guides you through sessions of interactive, therapeutic breathing powerful enough to lower blood pressure. Using a breathing sensor, RESPeRATE automatically analyzes your individual breathing pattern and creates a personalized melody composed of two distinct inhale and exhale guiding tones. Simply listen to the melody through the headphones and synchronize your breathing to the tones. By prolonging the exhalation tone, RESPeRATE guides you to slow your breathing and reach the "therapeutic zone" of less than 10 breaths per minute.The physiological result? The muscles surrounding the small blood vessels in your body dilate and relax. Blood is allowed to flow more freely, and pressure is significantly lowered.
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What's the
best way to lower blood pressure? Exercise and diet I guess but didn't
you mention a tea that spiked yours?
Honey Vanilla Chamomile and
Caffeine free herb teas by Celestial Seasonings caused spikes in my blood pressure.
I previously traveled with these herb teas and my blood pressure would shoot up
every time I drank them. This coincided with when I traveled to see my doctor. We thought I had white coat syndrome - every time I saw someone in a white my blood pressure would rise. It turned out to be the hawthorne berries in the two herb teas. |
Is there a tea
that helps lower blood pressure?
In theory hibiscus tea should
lower blood pressure. But I have experienced a direct lowering of blood
pressure by chewing fresh sprigs of parsley. Chamomile is said to decrease inflammation surrounding the kidneys. I find this tea very calming and usually have a cup just before bed.
HELPFUL to lower blood pressure:
- Monitor blood pressure
- self biofeedback.
- Monitor your urinary pH
nightly – as long as I remain alkaline, my blood pressure remains low.
- Low sodium diet, less than 1200 mg per day.
Limit salt to 1/8 teaspoon of Himalayan sea salt crystals (pink). Place salt in a salt shaker
and this can be used throughout the day. At the end of the day, toss
the unused salt. It cannot be saved for consecutive days. Avoid processed,
canned, frozen foods, prepared to go foods, salty snacks such as cheese,
olives, pickles, soups, chips.
- Drink water
I read recently that someone running a marathon drank too much water
and it drastically lowered his sodium. Perhaps from us PKD'rs drinking
adequate daily water would keep sodium at normal levels? This is provided
you are not fluid restricted.
- High potassium diet
(unless potassium restricted). The optimal ratio is 8 parts potassium
foods to 1 part sodium foods.
- Exercise daily
Daily walks followed by a rapid sprint helps blood flow to overcome
any kinks and obstruction from cystic organs. According to this article those who walked most rapidly, rather than at a moderate pace, or not at all, developed better flexibility and aerobic capacity, and had greater reductions in systolic blood pressure.
- Adequate sleep and rest
A recent study showed that individuals without sufficient sleep start
secreting a hormone called hyperphage which causes them to eat more
and gain weight. Added pounds increases blood pressure. If the kidneys
are bathed in an adequate blood supply, they cystic kidneys do not
produce renin. It is the renin output from kidney cysts which causes
the elevation in blood pressure. Sometimes native kidneys continue
to produce renin and have to be removed because of the highs in blood
pressure that are created. When the body is lying down this increases
the blood supply to the kidneys.
- Useful herbs and teas:
parsley,saffron, hibiscus, onions, garlic
- Avoid certain herbs:
licorice, hawthorne berries, ephedra, rosemary
- Avoid common allergic
foods
Egg, peanut, milk, nuts, sesame, fish, rye, wheat, oats, soy, molluscs
(oysters, mussels, clam squid, octopus) crustaceans (lobster, prawn,
crab,shrimp, strawberries, nightshade vegetables.
Food intolerance: MSG, food additives, wine, red wine, diary, chocolate,
egg white, gluten, sulfites, royal jelly bee pollen & propolis.
Isabel taught me to read labels carefully. Some celestial seasonings
teas contain licorice, hawthorne especially Honey Vanilla Chamomile
and Caffeine free herb teas by Celestial Seasonings. For a complete
list of ingredients click
here.
By doing all of the above, I have avoided spikes in my blood pressure.
Spikes will re- occur if I eat wheat for instance, or indulge in a cookie
or drink an herb tea which contains licorice or have some dairy. If
I avoid these things, walk daily and eat vegan, then my pressure is
solid without medication.
To test these theories, if
it might be effective
for me, what I did is for a short one week trial, I ate brown rice,
steamed vegetables, drank water flavored with a freshly cut lemon, and
exercised daily. My pressure came down to normal without any spikes. |
What helps to
lower blood pressure when it spikes?
A lecturer said at the 15th annual PKD conference that no matter what–generally by
the age of 50 almost all of us PKD'rs will need to take medication to
lower blood pressure due to our angiotensin-renin-aldosterone and sodium
system going awry. I too needed blood pressure medication for about
a year. I discovered that I required more and more medication in stronger
and stronger doses to effectively control my blood pressure down to
100/60 - 110/70.
I got compulsive about testing my urinary pH. Blood pressure medication
made me acidic. The more acidic I tested, the higher would go my blood
pressure. Together with my doctor we slowly weaned me off blood pressure
medication. I agreed to continue to monitor it daily as well as my urinary
pH. As long as I tested with a urinary pH of 7.5 or higher, my blood
pressure stays at 113/68 - 106/70 - 112/72 range.
I noticed it would spike, almost randomly, and always when I traveled
to see my doctor. We thought it might be white coat syndrome, or fear
of the doctor. When my naturopath told me about melatonin I understood
that looking back, that my blood pressure spikes have occurred when
I have traveled to different time zones and may have been related to
lack of sleep.
I have stopped melatonin because I noticed it gave me an indigestion like chest pain. AVOID melatonin if you take immunosuppressive drugs.
Melatonin may help
with jet lag. Use the smallest possible dose possible and split the tablet into fourths.
The following day take a Vitamin B 6 and go for walks in the sunshine to reset your internal clock, your pituitary gland. If I have difficulty falling asleep I will less than 425 mg of magnesium taking it at night with 2 ounces of grape juice diluted in mineral water.
I had never had
high BP until recently, when it went borderline and then up to high.
Are there any side effects from Cozaar? Will I be able to reduce my
dosage, ever? Is Cozaar the best BP med for us PKD 'ers?
Cozaar is a very good medication for PKD'rs. It increases the blood flow to cystic kidneys and decreases protein in the urine. Renin produced from
PKD kidneys causes blood pressure to increase by a lessening of the
blood flow to the kidneys. I found myself becoming more and more immune to the blood pressure lowering effects of Cozaar - some side effects
are a cough that won't quit. I started with a half a tablet then continued
to increase it to two tablets. I then switched to atacand another blood pressure medication that increases blood flow to
the kidneys. My blood pressure was well controlled for a month, but
once again started getting spiking. I stopped drinking
caffeine free tea by Celestial Seasonings (this contains hawthorne berries
which causes my blood pressure to spike) and I stopped honey vanilla
chamomile (this one contains licorice - an herb which makes blood pressure
spike). My pressure came down to
110/78.
What type of
Celestial Seasoning teas did you get to lower blood pressure?
Teas do not seem to lower blood pressure, they raise it. All caffeinated
teas will raise blood pressure and cause cysts to grow. Try this for more information Coffee
& Tea alternatives. Many herbs said
to normalize blood pressure, raise my blood pressure. By eliminating certain herbal teas by Celestial seasonings I was able
to keep my blood pressure around 110/70. Prior to this, my blood pressure
would spike until Isabel, a fellow PKD'r pointed out to me that certain of the celestial
seasonings teas contain hawthorne, ginger, and licorice.
To lower blood pressure that is spiking detail to things that can increase spikes by avoiding foods that can cause a slight allergy, avoiding caffeine, taking prescribed blood pressure medication, daily walks, daily exercise, taking time for a little quiet during the day, eating vegan all help to maintain low blood pressure.
If you are taking cozaar or any blood pressure medication, keep well-hydrated by drinking water.
I am reading a book called Water and Salt the essence of life and they
recommend artesian spring water such as Fiji water filtered through
the volcanoes (with a pH of 7.5). I am drinking local natural artesian
spring water from filtered through the volcanoes of Mauna Loa called
Hawaiian Springs
AVOID
table salt and use for those times when I need to bake non yeasted spelt
bread, I use Himalayan sea salt crystals called Halite. Or if this is
not available to me then I use Celtic sea salt or fleur de sel sea salt.
My daily sodium intake is less than 1200 mg.
allergic foods such as: deadly nightshades (tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant,
peppers, tobacco, and belladonna). chicken, beef, pork, most nuts (the
exceptions are almonds, coconut, and chestnuts), wheat, yeast, sugars,
soy, and foods which cause blood pressure to rise and cysts to grow
such as, caffeine, chocolate, decaffeinated teas, coffee, de-caf coffee.
green tea, white tea, de-caf green tea.
USEFUL
Herbs such as parsley, saffron, and hibiscus.
Plenty of sleep.
Exercise daily and try and take some time for myself. I find that when
I am alkaline then my blood pressure is well controlled and I require
no blood pressure lowering medication.
Self monitoring of blood pressure daily. I use an Omron Model HEM-605,
a wrist BP monitor, which was described in consumer's report last year
as being the most accurate in it's class. It has a memory so I just
show it to my doc and he can see for himself what my pressure has been
running for the past year. To Keep my blood pressure down I make sure
I stay alkaline with a bedtime testing of my urinary pH 7.5 - 8.0. I
eat raw parsley, put on a sandwich, sprinkle it in soup, top a salad
with it, or put it in a juice. I ate raw onions and raw garlic
Turmeric and Blueberries are high in antioxidants. Turmeric is the herb
and blueberries (or cranberries - same family) is the food with the
highest anti-oxidant properties in it. These both are known as super-foods
for their anti- aging properties.
I go for a morning walk early in the day. I find this brings my pressure
down. If it is unusually high I take two blood pressure medicines (on
the advice of my physician). If it is 130/90, I take two at bedtime
so I have a good night's sleep. If my blood pressure falls below 100/60,
I stop my blood pressure medicine. I try and keep it consistently at
110/70. If I notice it going up up up. Then I will drink nothing but
freshly prepared juices. No non yeasted made me breads. The starch I
will eat for the next three days is brown rice. I continue to juice
almonds and cabbage juice. I will have additional vegetables that have
been baked roasted or steamed. No added butter or salt. After three
days my pressure comes down nicely and will be maintained for a long
time. I think when I get over tired, this somehow shoots my blood pressure
up.
With PKD the renin-angiotensin system increases and stimulates a hormone
called aldosterone that causes the body to retain salt. So you have
a combination of salt retention and activation of angiotensin, both
of which cause high blood pressure in PKD. This is one of the reasons
for removing native kidneys following a transplant. Sometimes the remaining
PKD kidneys continue to produce renin-angiotensin and make the blood
pressure difficult to control. 78% of PKD'rs develop high blood pressure
sometime in their life. (for full reprint of the talk by Dr. Schrier
[University of Colorado] June 1999 Extrarenal 1 manifestations of PKD 2 click here 3
Things to Avoid: (to keep blood pressure low)
• All Animal Foods: dairy foods (milk, cheese, butter, cream,
ice cream), fish, meat, chicken, turkey, eggs, fried and greasy foods,
margarine, and all other processed foods and animal derived products
from your diet. (Read foods that destroy) These foods are laced with
chemicals, pesticides, and toxins as well as high levels of saturated
fats which have a very damaging a draining effect on the body.
• Salt, tobacco, caffeine, sodas, coffee, sugar, and refined white
flour (breads, pastas, cereals- replace with whole wheat pastas, breads,
and cereals). These products are extraordinarily destructive to the
body.
• Medications containing Ibuprofen (Advil, Nuprin)
Are there any blood pressure studies on PKD?
The HALT
PKD study is currently underway and they are asking for participants for this 5 year study. HALT PKD trial is conducting a blood pressure study to see if tight
control of blood pressure is good and if these medications cause the
kidneys to stay permanently perfused with a good blood supply Once the kidneys
have a decreased blood supply this causes an increase in the renin-angiotensin
aldosterone mechanism which hastens kidney failure. Read more under research.
USEFUL
OMEGA 3, essential fatty acids.
Omega 3's lower cholesterol, diminish heart disease, an added plus for
us PKD'rs. Daily I take a teaspoon of raw hemp seed oil. I drizzle it over my salad.
These are present in a very high ratio in flaxseed, fish oil and grapeseed. Fish
oil makes my liver ache. I avoid oily fish such as salmon, tuna,
ahi, mackerel, trout, catfish. I tried flax but
the same thing; my liver grew and ached. I am now trying hemp seed to
see if this will help raise my omega 3's and keep me healthy. Hemp seems to be a good oil as long as it is not used for cooking, only taken raw.
Another vegan source of omega 3's is walnuts, but alas, I have a slight
allergy to walnuts and it is not an alkaline nut.
USEFUL
HOMOCYSTEINE. Vegans need supplemental B12. I personally take folic acid,
B12, B6, and vitamin C with rose hips. We with PKD have
difficulties with high homocysteine levels. High homocysteine levels
have been linked to heart disease and high cholesterol, the # one killer of
most of us who have PKD. This is easily corrected by taking Vitamin
B12, B6 and folic acid daily for 90 days and to continue with this for life.
USEFUL
Available on tape is a
blood pressure lecture ( number 05) by Dr. Torres from the 13th annual PKD conference. A brief summary follows:
With Polycystic Kidney Disease PKD some of the things that occur with
blood pressure rising have to do with inflammation within the renal
blood vessels. These microscopic vascular lesions within the small vessels
of the kidney are associated with essential hypertension and may be
the hallmark of salt sensitive hypertension.
Salt Sensitive hypertension occurs in PKD. Some of the clinical features
are:
1) Microalbuminuria (protein in the urine)
2) LVH left ventricular hypertrophy (LVH occurs in children and young
adults even before marked hypertension is present).
3) Hyperurcemia (uric acid in the urine - gout arthritis)
4) Reduced nocturnal blood pressure dipping.
PKD'rs are non-dippers. This might be one reason to take blood pressure
medication at night as well as in the morning or if it is a one time
dose, take it all at night. Another reason would be there is increased
kidney perfusion at night when we are reclining. And a third reason
would be if dizziness would occur from a low blood pressure, this would
happen at night while sleeping.
My yoga instructor said should I become dizzy after doing yoga, have
some pure water. This worked.
Strict control of blood pressure 110/70 needs to be instituted before
kidneys decline in their functioning. Tight control of blood pressure
once there is the presence of renal failure makes individuals
with declining kidney functioning worse.
Vascular damage starts in the kidney even before blood pressure goes
up. Start treatment very early. Include non-pharmaceuticals such as:
salt restriction, weight reduction, exercises, and avoidance of alcohol
and caffeine. Address the risk factors of cholesterol and smoking. Optimal
blood pressure should be attained. The only exception is someone with
very advanced renal failure.
I have become aware of that if I remain alkaline, my blood pressure
stays low. This could be due to a high potassium diet, yet others who
have declining kidney functioning and are potassium restricted, have
noticed that as long as they remain alkaline, their blood pressure stays
well controlled.
From the very beginning of his study of PKD, Dr. Grantham, the co-founder
of the PKD foundation, has observed that very early in life, there begins
an inflammatory process with scarring of the renal blood vessels. His
studies indicate that this is related to renal toxins. These trigger
cyclic AMP, which causes microscopic little sacs to fill with fluid
and become visible cysts. He has always thought if there were someway
to stop the scarring, this would halt the progression of PKD.
A few known renal toxins include: caffeine, anabolic steroids, nicotine,
acids such as in aspirin and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, chaparral
tea, Ephedra, ginseng, star fruit, and more.
I started watching salt over 40 years or more when my Grandma had open
heart surgery. So I was used to being w/o salt. Does this help with
lowering blood pressure?
I avoid all salt in my foods. I eat foods that are high potassium.
I am not potassium restricted. My ratio is 8:1 potassium to sodium foods.
I read labels and avoid foods and snacks that lists salt , sodium or
if it has a high sodium content. I avoid all canned goods, frozen foods,
and pre-packaged items. I even go as far as to avoid foods high in sodium
such as dairy, celery, seaweed, kelp, and more. One PKD'r has reported
though he has 9% kidney functioning, he has avoided salt for many years
and has normal blood pressure without any need for blood pressure lowering
medication. When he questioned doctors about this, they attributed his
- ness to his vegan alkaline diet.
I am going to
avoid seaweed wraps. I have been trying soba noodles to control my blood
pressure, which is difficult even with medicine (norvasc 5) sometimes
it still gets around 145 over 89 which is too high being on meds. I
tried everything naturally I could to bring it down but nothing seemed
to work so I had to resort to this but then this isn't even working
very well!
I have been having the same difficulty. Have you tried tossing all your
salt out and replacing it with Himalayan pink crystal salt? I also tossed my can opener
so I can't use canned goods. Using only 1/8 teaspoon of sea salt per
day or the equivalent of 590 mg of sodium. If you bake your own breads
and do not salt your cooking or baking, reserving the sea salt for that
little bit of extra salt you would like to add to the foods after they
are prepared, then you are on a low sodium diet, extremely helpful for
PKD'rs. If you do not use the 1/8-teaspoon of sea salt, then toss it
and start fresh the following day.
I have found a great little diet software program called Diet Sleuth. It is available for free trial for 30 days. I liked it so much; I bought
it for $34. It will calculate the sodium, protein, fat, carbohydrates,
calories, phosphorus, potassium, calcium, etc. once you key in what
foods you have eaten. I eat fresh foods, mostly vegan vegetarian, maybe 50% raw.
I keep myself alkaline, testing between 7.0-8.0. I go for walks. I exercise
My blood pressure is now optimally controlled at 100/70.
An individual
without PKD gets high blood pressure and they start spilling sodium
in the urine. This is the body’s way of bringing the blood pressure
down. With PKD this does not happen. Instead we PKD'rs hold onto salt
tighter and tighter. This is why it is so important to limit sodium.
I threw out all the containers of table salt and now I have Himalayan
sea salt crystals (pink), or fleur de sel from the shores of Brittany
or Celtic sea salt is another good sea salt. Table salt contains aluminum
to make it pour freely. Canned goods, frozen prepared dinners ramen
noodles, rice mixes, macaroni dinners in a box are filled with high
amounts of table salt that contains aluminum. The brain tissue of people
with Alzheimer’s disease has a higher concentration of aluminum.
I have to walk daily to keep my blood pressure
at the optimal level of 104/72.This somehow encourages new vessels to
be laid down.
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